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John Burgess Webb

"yea,though i walk through the valley of the shaddow of death,i shall fear no evil,for thou art with me..." its a strange thing to survive attack when others fall.keep the faith scotty,we hardly know what god has for us to do,but we do our best when we are able.

semper fidelis

John Burgess Webb

i just watched the 2 hr. documenrary on the 9/11 attack on ny.the focus was on the firefighters of bat7-ladder one.of all the trajic things ive witnessed none compares to that event in violence;not even in the worst firefights of vietnam.to those heros that came to that scene to save lives and extinguish fire that melted the steel and already cost the lives of thousands;without their effort thousands more would have died in that conflagration.with all humility;i salute those firefighters and police who were on duty those hours and days after the attack.god bless the heart and courage shown that day and the dedication that lives in the men and women who live those proffessions.

burge

Kay Watters '65 (Greene)

Hey Burge, look up Dan Schoessow...his goodby party was tonight.  I've truly lost a family that was so there for me...Put fencing around my place for cows, finished my barn and built me the most beautiful craftsman porch which we've named Michael's porch.  But most importantly, was there when I lost my daughter, Lisa and prayed with me over Michael when we lost him, and shared his twins Caleb and Abigail with me, as well.  Meek and mild following in the steps of Jesus, in my opinion, my son and his wife were there tonight as well to thank him for his pastoral service in the county jail and the counseling he and his wife did when Michael died...they lost their first born son, Micah, when a church member accidently backed out of their drive  also, we all identify.  They will welcome another son, Jacob, in Jan. in Wisconsin.  Thanks for asking...

Beau does his with wonderful humor, being here on this forum and celebrating life with something we all identify with....his pets, and journeys, community spirit with schools and such, and the love he always states with his wife and  for us ....and all his stories, and interspections about how inadequate he is.....LOL.

Oh now, I'm going to get it from this forum!

John Burgess Webb

kay,i read pastor dan's explanation of psalm 109 and see right away that he is a learned and thoughtful man.beau should thank you for what is a compliment.you are fortunate to have a group who has rallied around to share your grief.

even the demons know the power of the holy spirit,those who mock god would do well to repent;it is for those that those psalms are written.the spirit,even the spirit of the law is to be loved;without it we would all be lost for eternity.eternity is a mighty long time,older than us and the world we live in.we cannot fathom,but we can believe.

Richard Meek '65

Burge there was an interesting article in the Chronicle yesterday regarding Flight 93 that I had not heard before. After the attack had started and flight 93 was recognized for what it was the Air Force scrambled two fighters to intercept. I don't have the pilots names at hand. I'll edit this later. The commander of the wing and a new pilot who is a woman were going up. the interesting part is they were going up in fighters with no armaments. They had been training and all the fighters only had rubber bullets and no rockets. As they were heading to their planes the commander told his wing that he would take out the cockpit. Her response was ok I'll take out the tail. They were going up on a suicide mission. They would not be able to point their planes at the jetliner and eject for fear that they might miss and the flight 93 would hit it's target. When the passengers took action it no longer was necessary to ram the plane.

The Pentagon was  still focused on a threat from Russia and an attack coming over the polar ice cap. Hence no worry about having planes fully armed and ready for combat at Andrews Air Base. That has changed. There are never less that two fully armed fighters there with their pilots no more than a few yards from the plane.

That young pilot who just got her first combat assignment is now a major in the Air National Guard. She isn't a fighter pilot anymore but she still flies and serves her country.

Wayne Lake

All,

Well, I’ve wasted another perfectly good summer up at Lake Wobegone and although the temp is still relatively warm, it appears the Canada goslings are stretching their wings for their long trip, the sugar maple leaves are changing color and the humming birds are stoking up on the calories so, I too, am planning my return to Texas where I belong. Enough of this land of Chardonnay drinking liberals and back to the land of Willie, big hats, Shiner Bock, flats fishin’ for reds and my old friends (fresh water boating is akin to kissin’ your sister for this salt water soul).  So would somebody with some stroke please dial the outdoor thermostat down to about 65F at night and 85F during the day as I have become accustomed to this temp range and really enjoy same. Thank you, I’ll buy you a beer when I see you again at Fudds, maybe in October.

Beau, I too, am a big fan of Robert Duvall, especially as Gus (maybe he or Captain Call were patterned after Jack Hays, the most formidable ranger ever) in Lonesome Dove (he also says this is his favorite role although he thinks Godfather II was the best movie ever and I may agree). I think I have read the book about 5x and seen the series about 25x, have the sound track on my Ipod and read about all of Larry McMurtry’s books but none come close to LD.

I recently read about the succession of the colt revolvers in Empire of the Summer Moon (storey of Quannah Parker last chief of the Commanches and Texas Rangers who pursued them by S.C Gwynne). According to the book, before the Navy Colt, the rangers’ weapons were not sufficient as the firing/reloading of any amount of single shot guns could not match a quiver of arrows from the Commanche horsemen. Then with Sam Colt’s first attempt in 1838, a .36 caliber 5 shot, octagonal barrel that could find no market in the US government (no wars at the time) but 180 were sold to the Republic of Texas’ navy and somehow made it to the rangers who really needed them. (Note: I always thought the term Navy colt meant US Navy but it was the Texas Navy, I suppose).

However, this weapon although superior to it’s predecessors, was not what the rangers really needed as it could not be reloaded in the field, it was not very accurate and the measley 0.36 caliber load could not penetrate the double hide buffalo breast plates of the fierce Commanches.  So, a couple of years later, when Ranger Walker was working in Washington DC, he met up with Sam and they devised the next generation, 0.44 caliber, 6x shot, longer barrel, field reloadable, Walker Colt and that’s about all I know about the subject.

Speaking of guns, has anybody fired the new S&W Governor wheel gun that holds both 0.410 shotgun and 0.45 caliber ACP? I’m picturing myself, Dirty ol’Wayne’O with 6x 00 buckshot: Go ahead, make my day/week/month/year.   

From Lake Wobegone,

wtl

Richard Meek '65

Good afternoon Waltripians. I picked up a little gem in the Texas Highways magazine at lunch. This would be such a sweet excursion for our Fudd's bunch. We may have to have a field trip. I want you all to reserve October 29th on your calendar. On that day I propose that we migrate to Matagorda to attend Bubba Fest. Some highlights besides the usual fishing, kayaking and sailing they will have Chateau Bubba Wine Tasting with artists displaying their works and live music. But the real stopper that goes in the bottle is . . . . Spam Carving and Getting Creative with Vienna Sausage!!!! Hey what do you think?  How often have you ever had the chance to carve Spam and get creative with Vienna Sausage with a bunch of large sweaty people? I ask you , huh, huh, huh? Since we're meeting at Fudd's tomorrow evening we can discuss it them. Whooo doggies if that doesn't get you excited  . . . I don't know what would. (I am not making this up)

Wayne,I think the Lonsome Dove story is based on the friendship and business partnership of Charles Goodnight and Oliver Loving. The originators of the Goodnight-Loving Cattle Trail.

Keep on dancing and come to Fudd's tomorrow evening,

Rich the LH

Stay Calm, Carry On

Wayne Lake

Rich,  

I realize some internet sources suggest the LD book/movie was based on Goodnight/Loving so we may have to ask Larry for sure (I just wanted ol’Gus to be Jack Hays). But according to my internet research, Goodnight was born in 1836 (lived to 1929) and although he did serve briefly in the Rangers, he would have been much younger than the Gus/Call characters. I have not found record of Loving being a ranger at all but he too could have served as well. I also think Goodnight never ranched in South Texas where the fictitious town of Lonesome was supposed to be along the border somewhere S.E. of San Antonio. Ol’ Gus and Call did take the Goodnight-Loving trail or near it up through the Texas panhandle and not the Chisolm trail to the East which was used for about 10,000,000 head of cattle to rail-head markets during the period of 1865-85.

In another Larry McMurtry book/movie, titled Streets of Laredo, Captain Call is commissioned to hunt down a crazed ½ breed young killer (Call is played by Jim Garner and George Carlin plays a old drunk in love with the killer’s Mom) meets his old friend Goodnight on his trek as he requires his old trusty sidekick, Pea Eye (played by Sam Shepard) who is ranching around Goodnight - not a great movie or book – best part is probably George Carlin.

There is a Texas Ranger Museum near Waco along I-35 that I need to go check-out soon, maybe a bucket list place……….thinking road trip – has  anybody been  there and is it worth  the trip? I did visit the Chislom Trail museum in Duncan, Ok last fall and although it is very nice, I think they had some historical facts wrong (dumb okies), at least according to the publication called Trail Riders of Texas compiled by J. Marvin Hunter available through UT Press.

I’ve spent plenty time around Matagorda and I’m sure Bubba will be there but if you have not been to the annual Gator Fest in Anahuac on Trinity Bay, you may have never encountered the real Bubba of East Texas,  I think I saw more people than teeth. Speaking of teeth, I’ve read where they deduced that the toothbrush was first invented in Arkansas as if it would have been anywhere else, they would have called it the teethbrush.  

Still from Lake Wobegone,

wtl  

Wayne Lake

 Correction to last post:Lonesome Dove would be SW of San Antonio. Now, if I could only remember the name of that drug for Alzheimers.....................    

Teddie Jordan

Wayne, Lonesome Dove is my all time favorite movie and one of the few that I own. I watch it occasionaly down at Freer, usually on a cold winter night during hunting season and often when I'm down there by myself. It's the only movie I've ever enjoyed watching more than about once every 20 years. Robert Duvall and Tommy Lee Jones were perfect for those two roles.

It is also one of my favorite books and in fact I am currently re-reading it.

My yellow companion Gus is actually registered as Boomer's Augustus McRae. I worked with a guy at Heat Transfer who named his cat Lorie, but that's another story.

Lastly, I have a very nice replica Remington 1858 New Army .44 blackpowder revolver that was presented to me by our process furnace manufacturer as a retirement gift when I "hung it up", so your comments were right on for me.

Get back down here as fast as you can! The redfish and trout are plentiful this year in the Coastal Bend and hunting season is here so I need somebody to take up my slack down there on the water.

John Burgess Webb

good to hear from you wayne,be prepared for hot and dry weather.it hasnt rained up here in months,cant wait for a little 3 day rain.

Beau Wann, Jr.

Sometimes I'm not sure what is a compliment and what isnt, having received so few of em...(not a fishing expedition) probably havent deserved many, but I do thank Kay for her compliment...and coming from one I hold in such high esteem, makes her compliment all the more special...

The name of that pilot that was ordered to take down flight93, without aid of weapons, is "Lucky" Penney...I read her story...quite a courageous and interesting woman...It would be good to have her on your side...she was more concerned with mission success than she was about dying...she and her commanding officer went looking for Flight 93, and he said he would try to ram the cockpit, and she said she would hit the tail...such courage..."run to the sound of the gunfire"...Thats about how most of us would react, I'm sure...I know my thoughts during trying times, was to "please dont let me mess up"...get the job done as I had been trained...nothing else mattered or came to mind..."failure was not an option" if I may quote a well turned phrase...

When flying with the Patrol Squadron, got to know lots of pilots and aircrew...I wanted to be an aircrewman so bad, and EARN the gold AC WINGS...but was there on tempduty for about a year...and they wouldnt let me change my rate to "airdale"...man, those guys were so jaunty in their flight jackets and some of them even had the WWI white silk scarf, and of course shoulder holsters with the 1911 issue colt 45...they even issued a jacket and colt 45 to me for duration...but, like the honest person I wanted to be, I turned them in at the end of my duty...

I wish I would have kept the jacket, they wouldnt have missed it...it only cost 44 dollars, but back in 65 66, that was a lot of money...and I think I only made about 90 or 125 dollars a month, plus "flight skins" or "combat pay" of 55 dollars a month...I heard that when they quit using that type jacket, THEY BURNED EM...GOD, WHAT SACRILEGE...but, I wore a 38 "little bitty"back in them good ol days...course now I'm a 46-48 rather large...so it wouldnt fit anyway...my Pea Coat is a 38, and just kills my soul not to be able to wear it...I can get one arm in, but thats it, and thats a struggle...I've tried to interest DW into wearing it, but 38 is a might too large for her, plus it seems like it weighs about a hundred pounds...if DW put it on, she would fall to the floor, and have to call for help to get up..."Ive fallen and cant get up...a Navy pea coat is holding me down"...

I remember when they issued that Pea Coat to me, it was huge and heavy...in fact it swallowed me up...I thought they had made a mistake in size...silly me, they never make mistakes...at least I had the good sense not to question them about it..."WANN, JUST KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT" was my motto...I Wore that Pea Coat on some real cold nights out on the flight line for Midwatch...midnight to 4 am and sometimes to 8 am...thems long hours for sure...Couldnt go into the guard shack where the heater was, it would put you to sleep almost instantly...and if you fell asleep on watch, they could and would shoot you...and rightly so I suppose...

Seems like everyone in the flying squadrons had a "handle", or nickname..."Ozzy" "Raven" "Batman"and my all time favorite, "Mad Dog"...could you just see all 125 pounds of me being called "mad dog"???? More like "Mad dumbass"...Generally they called you by your last name, or if you were from Texas, "Tex" which was ok...sometimes they just said "hey wann, two three, get your skinny carcass over here and fix this R390"...who was I to argue...at least they needed me...I'm glad they didnt know I wanted to be "mad dog", wouldnt a heard the last of that ribbin...

Also, the One Issue Flight Jacket USN, Mens , was made of Goat Skin, with the brown fur collar...had your squadron patch on one side of the front, and USN, and your name on the other...when I could wear it, I would sleep in it if I could..."hey wann, take that stupid jacket off, it aint a bed jacket you moron"...oh, how I loved that jacket...but, truth be told, it really wasnt all that warm up around 10 to 15 thousand feet flying at 300MPH plus in an unpressurized cabin...temperature drops 15 degrees for every 1000 feet you go up...I'm here to tell you, IT DOES...you'd think that the closer you got to the sun would be warmer, but not so...at night, my teeth chattered so bad, they told me not to use the intercom...if I wanted something, just forget it..."hhhhheeeeeeyyyyyyy  Mmmmmmmmmmrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  Lllllllllllllllloooooooyyyyyyydddddddd..." Wann get off the intercom. what, they didnt have winter in that Texas cow pasture you lived in????" Them guys was all heart...

I got to keep the Squadron Patch...yeaaaaaa...now I wear it with pride on my motorcycle vest...DW dug it out of an old cigar box years ago..."what is this" she said..."oh that, I forgot about that, where did you find it" says I..."tell me about it" she says, so I tell her about it, and she said to display it, so I did...glad I kept it, even though I didnt know where I had stored it...I'm surprised it was still around, with all the many times I have moved...and thrown stuff out...still have my uniform and Pea Coat in Dianes Cedar Chest, and a couple of dixie cup hats from them good ol days...head about the only thing not grow, so I can still wear the hats, but nothing else...is your head suppose to get bigger???? probably so, for all that did well in school and actually retained that knowledge...went in one ear out the other with me...surprised my head didnt implode...

Besides that good ol patch in the cigar box, lots of other stuff, like rocks and buttons and pins and sea shells and spent cartridges...I'm sure those rocks meant something at sometime, but for the life of me, cant remember why I kept em...must be my version of "moon rocks"...maybe, they fell out of my head...I'll bet I have a zillion wooden cigar boxes just crammed with stuff...got one with my Moms Husbands Marine buttons and US insignia and Major and Lt Col leaves...and "Marksmanship Badge" and CIB...oh, and crossed sabers insignia...wasnt that nice of him, to send those to me!!!! He is a good man, and good Marine...glad to call him "Dad"and or SIR, any day...carried a BAR when he wasnt flying an S2BC, torpedo fighter bomber...he is 92 now...still stands tall and straight like a marine...once a marine, always a marine...

Wish I had had the "right stuff" to have been an officer...most of those guys really had a lot on the ball...we have a retired navy Captain in our class...friends, they dont hand out "chickens" to just anyone, expecially in the Navy...When you make Captain, equal to full bull colonel in the other branches of service, you are just about master of any vessel up to and including Air Craft Carrier...and being a CO of a carrier, you really have to know your stuff...

But, we all had a job to do, and was where we were suppose to be, I suppose...I could send and receive morse code about 20 words a minute...no easy task when they sent block code, and not plain language...plain language was easy and you could take it faster, because you could anticipate what they were going to send by the first half of a sentence, mostly...the folks that amazed me, were the officers that took a "fix" on our position, using a sextant, and the sun and stars, and get it dead on...they still do it the old fashion way, but also use GPS...just to be sure, I suppose...but I wasnt special in knowing morse code, because the CO and some of the officers could take it too...

I was told that they phased out the "RADIOMAN" rate in the Navy...dont know what they are called now, probably communication techs...dont use morse code either...the equipment we used back then, would fill up several compartments...now, probably fit in the palm of your hand...

hmmmm...where did the time go...almost midnight...everyone is snoring but me...not sleepy, so gonna be a long night...
I found a study bible at the church library...it has references to other scripture in the margins that coincides with the scripture you are reading...can you imagine how much research and work that took to produce????? maybe I'll try to read it without falling asleep...learn how to use the references...I do know one thing, that Isaiah 7 8 and 9??? has reference to the "birth of Jesus" "prince of peace" "emanuel" and "young woman conceived by the holy spirit" ...the book of Isaiah was written 750 years before the birth of Christ...must be something to the Christian teachings...eh what???

Remember, "only you can prevent forest fires", so please do...
your frien and smokey bears frien...DOD

John Burgess Webb

putting the walker colt in perspective;l to r:

the ruger vaquaro(peacemaker clone) the .44 walker colt,and the .45 1918 new service revolver,the largest double action revolver colt ever made.it was the new service colt that my mother and marcy english picked out for me when i was in chu-lai svn.i carried it throughout my tour and it was handy.those who owned .357 mag.pistols were told to send them home because the .357 was against the geneva convention though some "tunnel rats " liked the .357.this is not the one i carried in vn.i gave my 1918 to my brother back in 1974;i think someone stole it.anyway they are all excellent but way outdated.fun to shoot though;the walker burns 50 grains of black power and was designed as a horse pistol,to be holsterd on the horse,not the hip.some rangers carried two and holstered them any way they wanted.it will but a big hole in just about anything but quarter inch steel.
 

Beau Wann, Jr.

Hey Burge, fine collection of firearms...I have a "New Army 44" made by Uberti, distributed by Hawes...mine is just plain jane looking, but fun to handle...never shot it because it is blackpowder...not a fun hobby, at least for me...there is a place in Fredricksburg, called Cimmeron, that will take the old cylinder out, and replace it with one that uses cartridges...been wanting to do that, just never got round to it...that Colt Walker is sure  fine looking...I think it weighs about 5 pounds????? You run out of ammo, makes a good club...for close in fighting...

I also like that Vaquero with the "birds head" grips in 38/357...most of the ladies in the SASS (single action shooting society) both mounted and otherwise, use that particular gun...it's light, and cheap shooting, with little or no recoil using the "cowboy loads"...Mickey Boscarino from our class,  competes in the mounted SASS...she posted pictures of her and her horse on her profile...very talented she is...I've watched em compete, and they shoot out balloons whilst mounted on a full galloping horse...no easy task that...I'm busy just staying ON the horse, let alone shooting and hitting targets with a single action handgun...might get the horse to RUN over the targets...

here is a picture of a gator my son got this weekend down at port lavaca methinks...he didnt say how long or how much he weighed, but from the looks of em, it's big enough...

 hmmm, looks like I got it sideways...well, thats ok, turn you head to the left...

John Burgess Webb

hey beau,that gator is big enough to stay way clear of in the wild.i say,if it will kill and eat you,either stay miles away from it or kill it.the first one i ever saw was shot at chinquipen bayou.my grandfather had a camp down there right where the intercoastal canal touched matagorda bay.that one was only about four feet long but they spoiled fishing from a boat.i have great memories of chinquipen,my father and uncle buddy took me along on my first trip down there when i was about 5 yrs. old.we fished for red snapper on the banks of the canal and was a time when me and daddy were really tight.to loose him two years later devestated the family.

looked up mickey's profile and that sport is quite a challenge.what a beautiful horse she rides.she looks like a little girl next to her son.great pics.

burge

Richard Meek '65

Good morning Waltripians. It is good to see folks chatting in this chat room. What a novel idea!

Burge those really are handsome weapons you have. You must be approaching becoming a firearms museum.

Wayne, I think MacMurty probably took poetic license with Lonesome Dove and made the characters a compilation of real life people. I recently read an article in Texas Highways (08/11) about Goodnight/Loving. Without finding the article, as I remember it they ranched up around Weatherford and Black Spring (now Oran). Oliver Loving was about 20 years older than Charles Goodnight but they became good friends and business partners. Charles Goodnight was the main one to develop the Goodnight -Loving trail to New Mexico. They were making thethird drive to sell beef to the miners and the government to feed soldiers and starving Navajo. Loving died of wounds received in a fight with Comanches and Goodnight brought his body back to Texas for burial as he promised Loving he would. The GL rail was south of the buffalo range so they could avoid the Comanches and Kiowas. One of the things that made the GL Trail such a daring venture was there was one stretch where they drove the cattle for three days without water. When they finally got to the Pecos  River the cattle stampeded when they got the scent of water and they lost some cattle when they drowned because of all the others piling into the river. Some died from drinking brackish pond water nearby and some got mired in quicksand. All toll they lost 100 head. That drive was only repeated for a few years but it made Charles Goodnight a very wealthy man.When Oliver Loving left Fort Sumner, NM to go buy another heard he carried $12,000 in gold with him. An unheard of sum in those days.  So your most famous Ranger may have been part of the character in LD.

I look forward to seeing all who can make at Fudd's tonight.

Rich LH

Keep on dancing

Robert Derrick

Boy, you guys post some great stories, And I love them them all. Better than any Texas history class we ever had at Cooley.

But do any of you remember the first girl you even kissed. I do. It was Linda Larson. She lived down the street from me on Milwee. After that it was Barbara, then Amy, and Berry , and Mickey J. and etc. Well, I will stop there.

OKAY, Jackie and some of you other gals chime in on the first guy you ever kissed.

Teddie and Fran you do not have to respond. We know you have never kissed anyone else.

Robert Derrick

Lynn and Pat, that goes for you too.

Teddie Jordan

Robert, the first girl I ever kissed was my mama!

Richard Meek '65

God morning fellow Waltripians, it looks like we'll have another scorching day. Just remember it's a good day because there isn't a hurricane bearing down on us! With the way the temperatures are staying high it will be Thanksgiving before Wayne can return to Texas. We'll have a cool spell tomorrow. It will only be 94!

Robert, I don't have a clue who the first girl I kissed was. I just wonder how many people remember that stuff. I'm impressed that you have a comprehensive list.

It is a bit of baseball trivia for you folks. The Chicago Cubs are the only team to continuously hold a franchise from the beginning of the National League in 1876 to the present. The team has gone by four names:

The White Stockings, 1876-1889

The Colts, 1890-1897

The Orphans, 1898-1902

The Cubs, 1903-present

The Orphans has got to be one the strangest names I've ever heard for an athletic team.

Keep on dancing,

Rich LH

Dance like no one is watching

Jackie Crowe (Finch)

Hey Robert, lucky girls!!  And Teddie you sly fox -- "my mama" that doesn't count --- come on ------ confess!

I think my first kiss  was at a party - "spin the bottle" and do not remember who - probably was in 5th grade and in shock that someone actually kissed me!  Sorry really cannot say -- it's just a blur.  Hope others can remember!

I'll be posting Fuddrucker pictures soon - we had a good evening and Sharon Allen came in her '66 Red Mustang - a beauty!!!

BroBeau where are you -- we missed you last night!

Hugs,

J

Paige Talley (Meek)

 Sharon Hulquist (OK y'all, he was a boy) 4th grade Helms Elementary on 21st street.

I don't remember when I kissed him, but I sure do remember when he kissed me. It was my first boy-friend kiss. Back row of the Garden Oaks Theater. Kissed me on the cheek and quickly turned back to watch the movie...

and then there was... 

I have missed all the jabber on the forum. I get on to read some, but have been very busy. I certainly have missed Tuesdays at Fudds, but plan to make it next month.

All is dry in CS and the big oaks that shade my cottage are dying. It is so sad to watch their demise. I do hope that the prediction of two more years of this is untrue. A good thunderstorm would be fine with me.

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• Software Engineer
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Hugs

Paige

John Burgess Webb

kiss and tell?i thought you girls never did that.i remember the first real kiss;all ill say is that she was a nice catholic girl.i was all of seventeen.we were shaking like a leaf.compare that to today;quaint huh?

hugs and kisses

Jan Barnes '65 (Nimtz)

Got the old brain thinking... the 1st (KISS, that is) was Bennie in 5th grade (same as Jackie, in a game of spin the bottle), then came Louis, Michael, Randy, Don, Doug & Steve, though not necessarily in that order.  By 8th grade I was going steady with the guy who was to become (and still is) my husband, so have not kissed anyone significant since then.  Have I led a sheltered life or what? 

BTW... above names may have been changed to protect the innocent!

BTW #2... the '64 forum is much more active that my class of '65.  Is that because you guys are older and more mature?

Jackie Crowe (Finch)

Fuddrucker pictures are posted!

Kisses!

J