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02/16/15 11:33 AM #6905    

 

Beau Wann, Jr.

Just a short note, if the paper work that dubs me an earl, does catch up to me, I will of course remain your humble frien. No kissing of the ring that sort of thing, maybe just a small bow and or curtsy will suffice.   

Your simple minded frien, the Earl of Cephus of Chappell Hill...

Post script:  Many folks have mistaken our small little town for the one in Noth Carolina !  Howsomever, those folks spell it wrong,    OUR Chappell Hill has  more Ls and Ps in it...Ya for shure...


02/16/15 03:30 PM #6906    

 

Johnny Sheffield

Happy birthday to Jackie,Beverley,and Gary. 

Also happy birthday to all if those that have 

a February birthday 

johnny

 


02/17/15 08:21 AM #6907    

William Donald Ansley

Happy Birthday Jackie and also to all February Birthdays!


02/17/15 10:09 AM #6908    

Henny Banning

Jackie, Beverly, Gary...Happy---Happy Birthday!!!

love, henny


02/18/15 08:08 AM #6909    

Gary Tharp '65

Thanks to everyone for the birthday wishes,

Gary

02/19/15 07:46 AM #6910    

 

Jimmie Lee Smith (Brawner)

Happy Birthday, Cheryl Perry!  Have an exceptional day.


02/19/15 10:24 AM #6911    

 

Linda Webster '65 (Jennings)

I want to extend belated Birthday Wishes to Beverly Allen and Gary Tharp. I am so sorry that I missed your day. Hope you both had a wonderful day.laugh


02/20/15 06:16 AM #6912    

 

William "Butch" Ginder

SINCE WE ARE POSTING SOME OF OUR TEXAS HERTIAGE I THOUGHT ID POST A FEW THING THAT I FIND AN INTERESTING READ. THIS IS A STORY FROM MY WIFES GREAT GRANDMOTHER ABOUT LIFE IN THE TEXAS PAN HANDLE

 

Good Sights, Sounds

Woman, 100, Recalls, Era of Longhorns

by Carrol Wilson

PAMPA - One thousand longhorns crashed through the dry mesquite near Snyder into the open rolling plains of the Panhandle. Their horns clattered and scraped together as they moved slowly across the prairie urged by the almost constant calls of the cowboys.

Those were the good sights and sounds - the good things Mrs. R. H Elkins likes to remember and think about.

She’s a little over 100 years old now, and though somewhat concerned with the present, she likes to dream of the cattle drive and her life on early-day Panhandle ranches.

From her bed, where she has been confined since before Christmas, Mrs. Elkins can see and hear high school football players on the practice field and she can see airplanes and automobiles and other symbols of the modern world.

She reads that part of the newspaper which she can see to read and tries to keeo abreast of world events. But, the events of the past are what she likes to talk about.

She talks about the time she, her husband, four children and 10 cowboys, pushing the longhorn herd to a leased spread near Mobeetie in 1897, stopped on Palo Duro Creek near Canyon. “It rained for 30 days,” said Mrs. J. H. Kelley, her daughter, who was 10 at the time of the cattle drive, “we had to stay in the chuck wagon for a long time.”

Mrs. Elkins’ sons caught fish in the creek and she cooked up batch after batch of sourdough biscuits and fish for the hands.

They finally made it to Mobeetie in 1898 after following the dust and grime of the hear over 200 miles from southern Kent County where the family’s ranch was wide open to predatory Comanches.

After resting the herd one year the family and cattle took to the trail again - to the 75-section spread near Clarendon.

At the Bar X Ranch in Clarendon, Mrs. Elkins assumed the almost typical chores of a ranch wife - cooking for the cowboys and sewing and mending and washing. There, the family stayed quite a while and Mrs. Elkins says it was a good life -the best.

After a 19 year stay in El Paso where Mr. Elkins was cattle commissioner, the family moved to Miami and then to Pampa and said goodbye to the open ranchland and the cattle and smell of sage. It was literally the passing of an era for Mrs. Elkins.

Elkins died in 1956 after 66 years of marriage and Mrs. Elkins has lived with her daughter since. She’s lived everyday to the fullest, she says.

Of course, after a century of living she’s got regrets. But, she’s got her memories too. Memories of the mesquite, the dust, the clattering horns and the peaceful calm of the ranch.

From another article she was quoted as having 22 grandchildren, 33 great-grandchildren and 20 great- great-grand children. Mrs. Elkins’ bright eyes gleamed as she grinned and said, “Sure, we had cattle rustlers, and if we caught ‘em, we hung ‘em. The same thing with a horse thief. Indians plagued the early pioneers in several ways from stealing horses to cornering dance goers in trees. Mrs. Elkins said her father often had to chain his horses to a wagon wheel to keep the Indians from stealing them, and even that didn’t do any good sometimes. When the Indians stole them anyway, he and his sons would hunt down the horse thieves. Mrs. Kelley explained Ken Elkins, a cattleman, and her grandfather on her father’s side, annually sponsored a Christmas ball on the Jim Ned River near Coleman. “For other entertainment, the early pioneers had camp meetings with a circuit rider preacher. Folks came for miles and miles on horseback and in wagons, and we had preaching all day and dancing all night,” Mrs. Kelley, said.

The Elkins family, like other ranchers and cattlemen in the days of the “long-horns” never owned a milk cow or planted a vegetable garden.

Sent from her granddaughter, Gena Tubb.


02/20/15 06:50 AM #6913    

 

William "Butch" Ginder

THIS STORY IS FROM MY WIFES GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER

 

 Mr. G. K. Elkins, former Coleman county pioneer and brother of Captain J. M. Elkins yet living in this county, is still active at age of 92 years and manages his own ranch in McKinley County, New Mexico. With his family he recently made an extended visit with relatives at Colorado City, and an gave out an interview that will be read with interest by many of his old Coleman County friends.

The interviewer says of Mr. Elkins: “Uncle” Kin Elkins, venerable West Texas empire builder, was born in Jefferson County, Illinois, September 23, 1832. In 1853, when 21 years of age, he came to Texas and settled in Dallas county. The following year he moved to Parker county and made his home there until 1869 when he again answered the call of the undeveloped West and migrated on to Coleman County, settling near Camp Colorado. Here he settled on a claim and moved his family in 1872. Seven years later, he again sought the frontier and moved to Kent County where he settled on a homestead and engaged in at the cattle business.

Soon after making his home in Kent County, Mr. Elkins began to be rewarded with prosperity and within a few years was one of the leading cattlemen of that part of the State. In latter years, however, he has faced disappointment and witnessed the passing of his large property and livestock holdings to others. Being of the indomitable type peculiar to the true westerner who accepted no defeat, he “came again.”

Always following the call of the west he again turned toward the setting sun and leaving the Lone Star State, which meant so much to him, behind, moved to New Mexico and settled on a claim in McKinley county, where he now lives and is regaining some of his lost fortune. Mr. Elkins is the father of 19 children, 13 of whom are living today. He has 44 grand children, 80 great grand children and seven great great grand children.

Indian Raids in Jim Ned Valley

Reciting the incidents of Indian raids in Jim Ned valley, Mr. Elkins said: “The Indians had raided the valley and made away with many horses belonging to the settlers. An expedition to run down the Indians and return the horses to the settlers was organized by Sam Gholson of old Camp Colorado, in Coleman county, and we came upon the redskins in Nolan County. When pursued, the Indians took refuge in a small creek and an intermittent battle between them and the white men continued several hours. Several horses and mules, which had been stolen by the depredators, were retaken and returned to their owners.

As the Indian began to disappear from West Texas and the frontiersman believed at last they could turn their attention to peaceful pursuits, the cattle rustlers began to appear. Mr. Elkins had a conspicuous part in ridding West Texas of this disturbing element, the same as ridding the country of fear of Indian massacres.

Exciting Bear Hunt

“And we had a number of trying experiences and went through some narrow escapes at times when not looking for the Indians. We vied with the Indian in bagging bear, deer and other wild animals to furnish our meat supply and often passed through such close places as to be fortunate to escape with our lives. One of the most narrow escapes I ever had was while on a bear hunt in the Jim Ned Mountains.

“It was in 1871 when I was living near Camp Colorado in Coleman County,” he said. “I formed a party of myself and six other men for a bear hunt in the Jim Ned Mountains, and arriving there we camped in a clump of post oaks some two or three miles from Buffalo Gap in Taylor County. The next morning after arriving and making camp, we started out up the mountain side in quest of the coveted bear. We had ridden but a few hundred yards when we discovered a band of some forty Indians racing upon us. We made a break for the mountain top but finding that the Indians were riding fleety horses and probably would cut us off, turned and ran our horses into a nearby dogwood thicket. We immediately dismounted and leaving our horses, crawled to one side a short distance and fell on our stomachs in the tall grass. By this time our pursuers had arrived within firing distance and opened barrage upon our mounts, believing we were close to them. They never stopped firing until every horse had been killed, and then continued to fire at frequent intervals into the clump of trees until nightfall. We did not return the fire believing that in case we did the Indians thus learning our place of concealment, would fire upon us and massacre the last in the party. Late in the afternoon chief and one other of the band came down to the edge of the thicket, passing within a few feet of where we were concealed in the grass and set it on fire. It appeared that a divine providence was shielding us from harm, as the dry grass burned to within a few short feet of where we lay and died out. As the smoke over the clump of dogwood evening shadows began to gather we scampered back to camp and made our escape.”

Mr. Elkins stated that he and his party had a large pack on hounds with them on this hunt and that during the attack by the Indians the hounds ran up and down between the place where the horses were tied and the small clump of live oak trees from which the Indians directed their fire. Fortunately for the white men, the dogs never at one time came to the place where the Indians’ quarry lay hidden in the grass.

Among the most interesting stories, perhaps, recalled by him while visiting in Colorado last week, was a vivid account of the recapture of Cynthia Ann Parker. Mr. Elkins was a citizen of Parker County at that time and a member of a company of frontiersmen organized by his brother, Captain John M. Elkins, himself a noted Indian fighter, and now living in Coleman County. 


02/20/15 07:52 AM #6914    

Gary Tharp '65

Thanks Linda!smiley


02/20/15 08:54 AM #6915    

 

Jan Barnes '65 (Nimtz)

Butch, Thank you for the vivid accounts of life in the old west.  Your wife is very fortunate to have written accounts like that of her family history.  What enjoyable reading!


02/20/15 05:33 PM #6916    

 

James King '65

Butch,

I really enjoyed your Texas Heritage posts.  A couple of years ago there was an article in Texas Highways Magazine about The Commanche Trail which runs along U.S. Hwy. 287 from Ft. Worth to Amarillo.  Significant sites along the Trail are marked by a large archery arrow.  The sites are where the Commanches had battles, campgrounds and hunting grounds.  I drove to most of the sites and read the historical markers.  Four days were spent trying to locate the sites.  Some were on rugged dirt roads that were not marked or the markers were covered by brush.  I enjoyed hunting for them.  Two of the most important sites were: the recapture of Cyinthia Ann Parker during the Battle of Pease River south of Childress; Battle of Adobe Walls north of Amarillo.


02/22/15 06:00 AM #6917    

 

Wayne Lake

Great stories, Butch, keep’m coming if you have more. Some of those old timers could write very well and describe in true, real life events what we have seen on the big screen.   

 

There is a great book on the last and famous Texas based Comanche Chief, Quanah Parker, son of Cynthia Parker called Empire of the Summer Moon by S. C. Gwynne. The movie with John Wayne called Searches was loosely based on this story. .

 

wtl


02/22/15 06:42 PM #6918    

 

Teddie Jordan

Good stuff Butch. I too love reading those accounts of the old days, and the lives of our Texas pioneers!


02/23/15 08:48 AM #6919    

 

Jimmie Lee Smith (Brawner)

Beginning May 25 on the History Channel there is a new series (8 hours) - TEXAS RISING - that covers Sam Houston and his army battling the forces of Santa Anna following the fall of The Alamo.  Bill Paxton, Ray Liotta, Kris Kristofferson and others in the cast. 

Butch, those stories are priceless.  Really enjoyed reading the accounts.


02/23/15 11:14 AM #6920    

 

Pat Brantley (Ross)

Now I know how's frustrated beau gets when he types a response and then loses it.

Wayne, the book "empire of the summer moon" is one of my favorites.

Our ancestors were such giants.  They endured hardship and lived.  A dear family friend from my childhood was born in Beaumont in 1898.  Her uncle was in the civil war and wrote letters to his mom detailing how they were waging war against the Yankees.  They would live in the swamps of Louisiana and come across the border to Texas to blow up what they could and run back into the swamps.  Bess never had children so I got the letters when she died.  

My mother was Seminole so she told me Comanches were the cockroaches of the Indian world.  She had strong opinions.

 


02/23/15 11:19 AM #6921    

 

Pat Brantley (Ross)

Different subject - I was looking at prom pictures and the one of Robbie Boswell and Judy Nelson appears to have an extra arm behind Robbie.  What's the story?  


02/24/15 10:14 AM #6922    

 

Beau Wann, Jr.

Hidy ho myne fyne waltripynes, from Waltons Mountain...Loved the personal history stories that helped to shape this once great nation from Butch and Wayne...Imagine how many stories have been "lost" after so many years. Hey Pat, the commanche were considered to be the cockroaches of all humanity, even by other tribes.

A thousand years ago, the commanch were the shoshone tribe somewheres up around taos.  If memory serves me correctly, and no reason to believe it will, the Shoshone were tall and "handsome, pretty".  Due to their battles with about 5 other tribes, soux and all it's derivatives, some of the shoshone moved to the south Texas plaines aned became the commanche.  They have  been described as "dirty and numerous other not so good adjectives".

My beloveds grandmother was part cherokee!  Dont know which part, but I think it was her taste buds, bud. We'd take her to dinner on Wednesdays and she loved Monterey House.  So, MH is where we'd go! She would eat jalapenos and wash them down with hot coffee. I like jalapenos, but I like my ice tea to go along with em! 

Dianes grandmother, Grace, was from Walnut Springs, Tx.  Her father fought in the civil war and had children late in life. He got too old to work on their farm, so they moved into town and b ought the boarding house, and ran it for a spell. It was actually a boarding house for railroad people. She said they had "mexican cooks", and that's how she  had come to like hot spicy food.  Dianes Grandfather (otto,  dads side) was from Hico, Tx.  Dont know much about him, cept he started Cunninghams Drug stores on the corner of Yale and 15th (no 1) . One of my friends that lived in he heights said he use to work at he old drug store as a "runner, or delivery boy".

Otto use to belong to the Pine Forest country club and played golf there till he passed away. Played in many of the Pro/am tournaments and was paired up with the likes of Don January. Got some trophy "plates" enscribed with tournament info, as well as "hole in ones" info.

A neighbor in the old candlelight oaks subdivision, where we just moved from, named Henry Mescat, flew B26's in WWII, was a fellow graduate with Bill Cunningham of the Cunningham Drugstores. Bill and Henry were both graduates of REAGAN around 42 methinks. Never got to talk to Bill, because he passed away before I met Diane. But did talk to Henry, and he knew Ms Gale at Reagan, and said she was old back then. Henry also worked for Southwestern Bell and retired about the time I went to work for them.  He drove a Harley and also worked in the heights and often had coffee and lunch at No 1 drugstore.

All the above is not all that interesting, cept for how all our lives seem to touch one and other from one generation to the next.  "The threads of our lives are interwoven to create the fabric that is our lives"...

Brrrrrr....it is cold out there...got to mosey on into town, do some stuff.

Keep the sun (if you can find it) at your six, and ride boldly ride...

Your frien and brother-in-classmate...Cephus, the earl of chappell hill.


02/24/15 10:50 AM #6923    

 

Pat Brantley (Ross)

Another book suggestion - the blood of heroes:  the 13 dat struggle for the Alamo.  Really good.  I liked it almost as much as michner's book "Texas"    I only read on kindle so I don't have a book to lend.  I love to read and I love history and politics.  


02/24/15 11:35 AM #6924    

 

Beau Wann, Jr.

Amen Pat, Amen...I love history and reading, but I only like hard copy books. give me the smell of a musty old book and the sound of pages turning any old day. If I could ever find my books, I'd lone em out, or give em away. I was planning on donating my books to the library here in chappell hill, which would bring up their total to probably 50 or 60.


02/24/15 12:37 PM #6925    

 

Jackie Crowe (Finch)

I too love family history --- I have a ton of documents, letters between love ones, pictures and marriage and death certificates, Wills, etc. on my mother's side of the family - Seiders.  Yes, German!  My Aunt R (my mother's only sister) was dedicated to researching the Seiders geneology for many many years until her death at the age of 95 (March 2008) and she could tell the stories!  She was five years older then my mother, so she would tell the story that she would ride her horse, Ben, bareback to the one room school house.  She would tie him up, but he would untie and go home, then come back when he knew it was time to take her home.  When my mother started school, my aunt had to drive a horse and buggy to school, she said she hated that!

Austin has a lot of Seiders history -- Seiders Springs, Seiders Dairy Farm and Kash Karry grocery stores.  She had so much history collected in albums and in her later years I helped her with more info through the internet.  Plus I love Austin, so any history, family or otherwise, is interesting.

"Shoal Creek bordered early Austin, and away from downtown the landscape quickly changed from a border to wild. Austin arose in 1839, and soon after Gideon White (my great great great grandfather) moved his family to the new capital and built a log cabin near a robust spring on Shoal Creek. White enjoyed a brief tenure. In 1842, while passing through a live oak grove, White met his end at the hands of a band of mounted Indians. He fought from behind one of the large live oaks and killed at least one of his attackers before being killed himself. White was one of several residents of the Austin area who were killed by Indians that year.

White’s family continued to hold the land. Four years after his death, White’s daughter, Louisa Maria, married Edward Seiders (this was my great great grandfather). Seiders owned livery and grocery businesses in Austin. The couple lived in her father’s cabin at the springs, which became known as Seiders’ Springs the nearby oak grove became known as Seiders’ Oaks.

The 1850 election once again chose Austin as the seat of government. As a result, the capital’s growth increased. The Seiders family moved to the bustling new city and the land remained in their hands as a ranch.  In 1865, General George Custer and his men camped under the sheltering live oaks at Seiders’ Springs.

By the 1870s, Seiders’ Springs had become a popular recreation spot. Seiders erected bath houses, picnic tables, and a dance pavilion at the Springs which bore his name. He even provided for his patrons a means of transportation to and from town. (I have a copy of his log receipt book)

Seiders’ Springs now trickle where they once gushed. Most of the area bordering Shoal Creek has long been developed, and most of the springs along Shoal Creek have been drained for decades. Yet Seiders’ Oaks remain, and people from surrounding business often picnic in their shade with little knowledge of the events that transpired here.

Also have some info on Crowe family ---but will post that later.  Would you believe my last name was really Crow, but a great aunt put the "e" on it to separate us from a group of Crow's in Austin (not related to us) that had a bad reputation.  So there you go --- CROWE!

Pat, oh my gosh, I've looked at that picture of Robbie Boswell and Judy Nelson many times and never saw the "arm" until you asked about it.  It does look like Robbie has 3 arms!!  But if you look closely I believe it's really part of an orange chair or sofa with a white cloth across the back and down the middle.  I think the orange chair/sofa continues where Judy is sitting? What does everyone else see --- okay Robbie and Judy you were there --- you tell us. Hugs, J

 


02/24/15 05:32 PM #6926    

 

Jackie Crowe (Finch)

Mini-Reunion

Save the date - Saturday, April 18 for our Spring Fling Mini-Reunion

Time: 4:30 - ?

Place: Johnny Sheffield is in the process of booking place. Will give more details later.


02/26/15 06:58 AM #6927    

 

William "Butch" Ginder

SOME OF MY FAMILY HISTORY. THIS WAS MY THREE TIMES GREAT UNCLE.

MOORE, WILLIS A. (1808-1836) ALAMO DEFENDER, WAS BORN IN RAYMOND, MISSISSIPPI IN 1808. HE IMMIGRATED TO TEXAS FROM ARKANSAS, JOINED THE TEXAS ARMY AT BEXAR ON NOV 26, 1835, AND TOOK PART IN THE SIEGE OF BEXAR ON JAN 1 1836. HE JOINED CAPT. JOHN CHENOWETH'S COMPANY. MOORE DIED IN THE BATTLE OF THE ALAMO ON MARCH 6, 1836. HE WAS A COUSIN OF ALAMO DEFENDER ROBERT B MOORE.


02/26/15 10:51 AM #6928    

 

Teddie Jordan

In honor of our Texas heritage and the incoming trail rides here are a few more of my favorite words of Cowboy wisdom from the book, Dont Squat With Your Spurs On:

Always drink upstream from the herd.

Generally you aint learning nothin' when your mouth is a-jawin!

Telling a man to go to hell and makin' him are two completely different propositions.

Remain independent of any source of income that will deprive you of your personal liberties.

Never drop your gun to hug a grizzly.

Trust everybody in the game, but always cut the cards.

A woman's heart is like a campfire, if you don't tend to it regular you will soon lose it.

If your sittin' at a counter leave your hat on, if your sittin' at a table take it off.

A body can pretend to care, but they can't pretend to be there.

You can just about always stand more than you think you can.

When it comes to cussin' don't swallow your tongue, use both barrels and air out your lungs.


02/27/15 05:29 PM #6929    

John Philip Adams

The Siege of Béxar Descendants
THE SOLDIERS AND THEIR DESCENDANTS

Moore, Robert B.
November 13, 2014 by tcloud Leave a Comment

Robert B. Moore born 1781 in Virginia. He came to Texas by way of New Orleans as a member of Thomas Breece’s company of New Orleans Greys in 1835. Moore took part in the Siege of Béxar and later served in the Alamo garrison as a member of Capt. William
Blazeby’s infantry company. He died in the battle of the Alamo on March 6, 1836.
Moore was a cousin of another Alamo defender Willis A. Moore.

Mrs. Scarborough would have loved computers. an ancestor of mine was with another
company at Bexar.
History classes would have been so much more interesting by teaching us how to find our relatives in these scenarios.

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