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05/09/10 02:21 AM

#2579

from the ancient stoic master, cleanthes:

lead me,o god and now my destiny,

to that one place you will have me fill.

i follow gladly.should i strive with thee,

a recreant,i needs must follow still.

05/09/10 10:18 PM

#2580

Scotty Croom

saw obit today for coach prigeon's wife.....

05/10/10 01:13 AM

#2581

Good sunday evening, or is it monday morn???

No matter! HAPPY MOTHERS DAY TO ALL YOU MOMS OUT THERE! PROBABLY THE HARDEST JOB KNOWN...BEING A MOM...work never ends!!! I dont know if there is anyone out there that has a problem with holidays, or designated days for this or that, but the pressure I put on myself, is just more than it should be! This mothers day wasnt too bad!!!! Had 2 dozen roses sent to my mom this morn, and a card, and some post cards! She loves post cards! So I buy them everywhere they sell them, and send them to her all year long! Small things like that are the best!!! She called and thanked me for the roses and said she had never had TWO dozen at the same time before! So, I did something right for a change!!!

Woke up in a foul mood, not related to the 4 beers I had yesterday! Ever since I can remember, some one always says, "I guess you got up on the wrong side of the bed" etc...When I first heard that on a particularly cranky start to the day, I decided to try to reverse it and get back into bed and then get out on the other side...heavy sigh...didnt work...still doesnt!!! But, being a manic depressive, I know what is happening and can combat it, with relative success! Only took me the better part of a half century to figure it out, but at least I did!

But like I was saying, the morning, mothers day of all mornings, started out rather sour for me, whether real or imagined, I was still cranky! Fed the zoo, and nobody wanted to eat...fixed a bowl of cereal for myself, and reached in the fridge and got the carton of milk out, or so I thought it was milk, and poured it in the bowl of cereal!!! Yeah, you guessed it, it was the carton of orange juice! Both milk and OJ are in the same type carton, but one is blue and the other is, "SURPRISE SURPRISE", orange! I went ahead and put milk in on top of the ceral and OJ, and ate it! No big surprise there, just tasted like cereal and milk and OJ! But, I endeavored to persevere! I did have the forsight to get my beloved a card and small present and cut some of her favorite roses from her garden! One was deep pink and three were lavender! These particular roses just smell to high heaven! I put them and her present and card on her side of the sink, so she would be sure to see them when she started her day! She did...she smiled...I tried hard not to show the battle going on in my idiot brain, but she guessed what was amiss! I just hate having to do battle over the rights to my emotions, but have had to almost everyday of my life!!!

I remember fighting it in highschool...the emotional rollercoaster...up, down, up, down...I thought everyone was like that, but found out it was not so!!!

Today of all days, and like I said, it happens a lot on special days, Christmas, Thanksgiving, birthdays, anniversaries, and all points inbetween! As Iwas grumbling, to no one in particular, just being a cranky old curmudgeon, I got the Sunday paper from the street, another reason to grumble! The paper girl, just cant, or wont get the paper any further than the curb! You know, it doesnt take more effort to do what is right, or go the extra mile if folks just would...So in the house I go, with yet another reason to be pissed at the whirld! I start the coffee, couldnt wait for that first sip, opened up the paper, and there is a picture on the front of a man and woman! Of course I couldnt see it at first, got to go find my glasses, another reason to be angry...tell me there are some of youse youts out there that experience this...tell me I'm not alone...

Find my furshlerginer glasses, and look at the picture and it is a husband and wife, and she is in a hospital bed! I read the story, and then get further angry for being angry at nothing in the first place!!! For having the gall to be mad at my stupid self, when here was a woman, that had given birth sometime last july methinks, and then she got a strep infection, which led to two strep infections, which resulted in a coma, and the subsequent amputations of her arms and legs...among other surgeries!!! HOW HORRIBLE what this woman and her family are now faced with!!! My beloved says this is not uncommon among women after childbirth!!! Never heard of it before!!! Well, I felt much worse now than earlier! And it was a feeling of disgust and self loathing at having EVER griped about anything! I dont know why this story hit me so hard! I even stood up in church, when the minister asked if there were any concerns or prayer requests from any of us, and I never stand up in church and say anything if I can help it!!!

I told the congregation about this story, and urged them to get the paper and read it, and that maybe we could do something to help this family, anything!!!! It could be an Oaks project, or better still a Presbyterian project, or even better still, the Northwest Alliance of Ministers project, or an oak forest project, or Houston project, ANYTHING TO HELP! Now, I dont usually jumpon a cause, especially for any self recognition or glory!!! But this woman will be traveling down the hardest road that anyone will ever have to face, or should never have to face, outside of losing a son or daughter, and I know we have plenty of that tradgedy in our small little class!!! And my heart certainly goes out to all that have suffered that...my heart truly does...

There are a couple of web sites set up for donations, and a blog on her progress! She has two other children, and did get to hold her new child!!! Now she can only hold them in spirit and in her heart!!!! I hope she gets held a lot from family and friends!!! As I said, I dont usually join in on causes, and if I do, I try to remain as anonymous and invisible as possible. But I just felt compelled to at least say something about this! I'm hoping this family has more help than they can use! Lots of good folks that are suffering, get left out, and left behind, and no one ever helps them...I just feel so bad for them all...and helpless to help!!! like all the critters I have rescued and saved and found homes for, sadly, we cant save them all!

I'm not asking anyone to give to this cause, or anycause, I just wanted folks to be aware of this families plight! At least we can all pray for her, as I'm sure most of us do for each other and our families and friends. This is Sort of, "I was griping because I had no shoes, till I met a man with no feet"...

I still feel bad for feeling bad, but I'm getting better! Ol special K (Koop) looks like a huge blonde angel stretched out on the couch sleeping...Jack is in the chair next to him, snoring...all critters are down for the night...all critters cept me!!! But, thats ok, got a lot o ponderin to do...

Every mothers day, my beloved gets kind of melancholy about not being able to have children, even though when she married me, she got three already born children, and didnt even have to go into labor!!! Of course now she does, when I do dumb things, like put the lawnmower in the pool, or run over her flawrs and or berry bushes etc...The kind of person she is, probably is much like most of you all, very good and kind! When she had cancer back in 87, and almost died, or actually did die, but came back, and the two major surgeries she had within a few hours of each other, and the year long chemo sessions that lasted an entire week out of each month, the weight down to 80 pounds because she couldnt eat, not being able to climb the stairs to get to her own bedroom, the loss of hair, and all the discomfort that goes with being seriously ill, do you know what the thing that worried her the most, or upset her...Losing the ability to have children...She still gets teary eyed when she thinks about it!!! I try to console her, in my ever clumsy way, by pointing out that she was very instrumental in raising my/OUR boys...taught them how to drive, drove them everywhere they needed to go, went to every function, sports activity allowable etc...Then I remind her of the hundreds, maybe thousands of children she has taught along the way in the past 32 years, the childrenthat were not her own, except at school, that she has bought clothes for, coats and shoes, ...Now that is an accomplishment not many men attain, if any!!! My beloved, is a very special mother, and one that I am privileged, and honored to call my wife! I'm not much, and feel like I cheated life, by not being the best that I could be! My accomplishments pale in comparison to what my beloved has achieved, so why she picked me, and why she stayed is certainly a mystery!!! God sure does move in mysterious ways, eh!!!

I know, I get silly on the forum, and do so out of a desire to entertain, and make people laugh and maybe, just maybe, forget about their troubles for a moment or two, and also to make my own failings tolerable by making light of them, which does seem to help me!!! I try to laugh at myself, and not take myself too serious! But I do have a serious side! My love of family and friends, and I count you all my family and friends, is no laughing matter, except when we laugh together! I hate it when others hurt!!! Seems my heart and soul takes on the pain of others in hope that it eases theirs! How silly of me, to think I can play God! But thats what happens when you are simple minded, or black and white, as I am!!!

It's late, or early if you will!!! I do look forward every 2nd tuesday, to seeing everyone, and am truly disappointed when some cant make it! Then it's another month till we meet again...But, look what I have to look forward to!!!! so, I will bid you goodnight, until we meet again...Happy trails, peace and love...

Your friend and brother, ol sweet tater beau DOD

05/10/10 10:53 AM

#2582

Kay Watters '65 (Greene)

"hugs, kisses and kudoes to all of you Waltripians and especially to all us Moms - on our special day!

On this meandering journey of "senior life" we wander through until our next destiny, thanks for all the incredible normal and outrageous humor scripted by the ingenious minds throughout the nights and managed moments! Baby boomers rank! No matter what style of life and/or underwear we choose to hide beneath our ever permanent levi jeans! (can you imagine we have been privileged to wear throughout our lives, who'd of thought?) Because of who we have come to be and simply or notably "are" adds a jingle to the ever - changing mozaic pattern of our group! Certainly does my heart good to read and be a part of this group. Makes walking through each day of my life, like a card embroidered with doiles around it, rather than just a daily walk. some of us may be starting to have memory problems, so these memory and laughter jogs are excellente.

(Mr. Beau-funny....DS is special, after all she takes good care of you and you her. It does not take children to make a woman whole. It does take faith in God, giving for common welfare of humankind...the Village raises the child and shapes mankind. I was thinking late at night before Mom's Day, wondering strange things like biblical lightning, thunder, parting of the sea, feeding of the fishes, ....things some say are only theatrical, and thought wouldn't it be something if we found that God was after all a woman and sent her only Son to save the lives of all the babies coming forth....well, anyway, it made sense that night, until I find it in the Bible that God IS a Male? Teachers are all nurturers, lovers of children, as I have witnessed while working at this school.

Anywayyy....I probably should have had some of that ale that night. Had a blessed Mom's day, church, gathered pics of my special children, flowers, cards and dinner out day.

It doesn't matter what you were, how much one achieves or doesn't achieve until the end of the Day...then God will decide that! Can they get me for spouting christian things here?

05/10/10 11:21 AM

#2583

Beau, we all wish that we could do things for people that would make everything ok. As mere mortals we don't have that ability. However, when you pray for them, you have done the primary thing you can do. Prayer is powerful. I have seen it's power. When you ask God into the situation you can't bring anything more powerful!

See you and everyone else Tuesday,

Rich

05/10/10 12:27 PM

#2584

Amen and amen! Saw a couple of new mothers at church! I know I dont have to tell you moms out there, but it is nonstop work from can to cant!!! We had 40 people this sunday, and 29 last sunday! Wow attendance increased by one third...right??? Well close enough for us!!!

Had lunch at Angies today, meatloaf, fried okra, green beans and rolls and a plethora of thingts to choose from! Once again, my expectations were exceeded!!! Didnt make it to bed last night, well only aabout an hours worth maybe! Took a pain pill, and it didnt stop the pain, but increased my anxiety level to defcon 3, so I couldnt sleep. Gonna curl up with Special K-oop and John Boy and probably Oliver and take a nap now, methinks...mehopes!!! (us guys got to stick together) It's funny now, Big Olie is about 8 and never was a lap kitty! (kind of hard to think of a 22 pound kat as a "kitty"), but now he is very clingy, and wants to nap in my lap! Thats ok with me, i feel honored!

ONCET AGAIN, THANKS TO ALL YOU MOTHERS OUT THERE, HAPPY MOTHERS DAY FOR NOW AND FOREVER AND EVER AMEN!!!! (JUST HEARD RANDY TRAVIS SING THAT ONE. ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITES)

STBDOD

05/10/10 03:32 PM

#2585

Hey Tater, Big Oliver senses that you need his ministrations. My little cat that died 10 days after my mom was that way. Her name was Cognac but her nick name was Nurse Kitty. Whenever I was under the weather she would be my constant companion. Either in my lap or curled up against me in bed. They sense your poor health and can be quite a comfort.

Ok, here's something we haven't done in a while, movie trivia! No googling now. Who was the star of the movie Quakser Fortune Has A Cousin In The Bronx??? Over the weekend o TCM I watched the 1938 movie the Adventures of robin Hood, starred Errol Flynn, Basil Rathbone, Olivia DeHavalind and Claude Rains. It was quite a movie done in Technicolor. The studio (can't draw up the name at the moment) that made it, made one technicolor movie a year.

Do what makes you happy,(In Taters case that would be porch swang asssemmbbllyy)

Rich

05/10/10 05:59 PM

#2586

Hey Rich LH, the name of the studio that did the adventures of Robin hood, is Warner Bros; the star or stars of the quackser fortune 1970, was none other than Gene Wilder and Margot Kidder!

STBDOD

post script; trivia of 1938 robin hood; James Cagney was originally planned for the title role, but he quit Warner Bros and the movie was delayed for 3 years.

Olivia De haviland is riding Trigger in this movie!!!

The fantastic arrow shots in the movie were actually really done, and by Howard Hill! He actually did the one where he split one arrow with another!

This was one of warner brothers most expensivefilms todate, at a whopping 2 milliondollars

It used all 11 of the technicolor cameras in existence, and employed the largest number of stuntmen on any one production, at that time!!!

05/10/10 06:18 PM

#2587

i dont know how you know all these things,you must have been blessed with a photographic memory.

05/10/10 06:54 PM

#2588

Methinks its just the acquisition of useless and worthless knowledge! Sometimes I remember this stuff, and other days, I dont recall so easily!!! I cant remember the real useful stuff, like how many scoops I put in the coffee pot to match the water! Cant tell you how many times I have poured it back in the can and started over. My coffee must be perfectly measured, thats why I start over!!! Dont allow just any cup o joe in my house!!!

05/10/10 09:20 PM

#2589

yepper,coffee is mighty important,the only stimulant i can handle;it seems that stimulants and alcohol didnt mix well with post traumatic stress .had to find out the hard way but it finally dawned on me that there was a connection.even beer is a depressant and you probably woke up on the wrong side of the bed cause your brain was still half-awake.its been 28 years since i took a drink and dont miss it.some people like me just cant handle it.i take an anti-depressant every day thanks to the va and can cope with the quickness and hyper vigilance that goes with combat stress.been at it for forty years now and it just wont go away.im not mad at the world ,just puzzled.i cant understand how intelligent people insist on trying policies that have failed elsewhere.venezualla has 30%inflation.the socialists are ripping that country apart;i mean who wants to live in cuba or north korea?the only place where socialism seems to work is denmark and they pay about 70%in taxes and aside from their muslim population they are a homogenious society,they work together well anyway.not so in the rest of the world.this revolution has been carried by violence since the bolshiviks;just history repeating itself.i forgot if it was lennin or stalin who said that liberals were just useful idiots and helpful to the accomplishment of the revolution of the proliteriat,after which the socialist revolution could be accomplished.a revolution against tzarist russia was one thing but when it went international,millions died.for what?a cuba,a north korea?please!i understand that this is america and it would be different than russia or china as it is impossible to kill the spirit,and democratic institutions will prove much tougher than overtaking a peasant society.we are now importing a peasant constiuancy from other parts of the world,not just south of here.im not entirely shaped by my experience in viet nam where i fought the viet-cong on the ground and had to bring myself down to a beastial level in order to survive;its more the witnessing of the inaptitude of the comminist government when the took over viet nam in 1975.i continued to fight them in various ways just south of going back over there.some of us tried but couldnt get any back-up.it was not until 1990 that teams began to go over there because that government finnally asked for our help in secret meetings;the rusians had abandoned them and they had utterly failed.this was what i consider my modocum of sucess.it is well to make a friend of a former enemy and i have adjusted to the fact that viet nam has been diplomatically recognised because there is a greater influence brought to that part of the world which affords a better stability,the goal in the first place.viet nam veterans did an all around masterful job with the constraints put upon them in a war of attrition that consumed the fortunes of our enemies.it was long and bitter.we do not need a socialist revolution;it should be relagated to the vaults of academia where it belongs along with the other failures like the united nations and the japanese empire.like the old vietnamese monk said: 'wait and see-wait and see'.

humpty dumpty

05/11/10 01:14 AM

#2590

it seems that i am locked into a nocternal existance,my mind has an afinity to peace and quiet;at no time is the quiet so quiet as between midnight and 3:30 in the am.its so quiet that i pick up on every little sound.as i get more blind,my anxiety goes up.when my anxiety reaches the adrenaline level i find myself so sensitive to sounds that i have a hard time sleeping.so i enjoy the night.i went outside for a while and my dogs,one by one came up to me to say hello.they are especially frisky tonight,winds blowing from the southwest,cool and wet.my dogs work at night till they want to come in;each one has its own rap on the screen door,they come in and position themselves around while i lay in bed and read until i can get sleepy enough to fall asleep;some time after sun-up.i have to let the days roll around and i shift back to getting up early.i love the very early mornings.there is something about dew on the grass and fresh air while the sun comes up.the down side of the nocternal life is the mismanagement of things that can done only during the day,so i sleep when i can.it has been slow healing up from both surgeries,so i dont beat myself up too much if i sleep long.im tired.ive been thinking a lot about my viet nam brothers,so many from oak forest.we were a lucky bunch,im glad so many came home alive,i cant express it in words.but i hope that commaradarie is a good word.i dont think any of us loved war;it was tough on everybody who went through that maze of constant contact with a clever and deadly foe. you know,i salute you. i hope you have found your peace and can enjoy the life we have today.as many views as there are right hear at the junture of what will become the hammering out of the greatest democracy ever.the old ways are always supplanted by the new,like us and 'them';its our grandchildren that will have to sort out all this change that has happened in the last 50 years and how cognacent we are of those we have been through as well as those which are going to happen for a long time to come.all parties involved have an historical record of compromise not only of policy but compromise in their basic phlosophy to make gains and they will in the future,but this time the structure of the republic is the matrix on which the future change must challange,and be challenged.the starting grid on this matrix is the constitution and the one thing that we once swore our lives to protect and defend.we did that willingly.thats what we did then,before the political polarazation.there is another generation of warriors comming up,a more educated and more innovative force.thus are the factons that will hammer out what we will have in the future.its good to be alive right now.we get to witness again how strong our democracy is.

05/11/10 03:05 PM

#2591

Kay Watters '65 (Greene)

Why does it get sooooo quiet on Fudd's Day???? Everyone stops talking, guess they are saving their best for tonight?

05/11/10 04:48 PM

#2592

Paige Talley (Meek)

Burge... I believe you have a poetic streak going... I love poetry and stories.

Thanks.... my windows were opened last evening and the wind howled. I am still looking for a window fan. Found several on Ebay. Can't afford one yet... I get one though soon enough.

Have a great "wee hours if the morning".

Paige

05/11/10 04:56 PM

#2593

Kay, that would be my guess too. Can you imagine if we all got there, and had nothing to say???? Well everyone but me, you know me, "chatty charlie" ! I could probably find something to say, even if it's all been said! It is now almost time for "Elmer Fudds" day meeting...YEAAAAAAA!!! Burge, wish you were here, as we wish everyone could make it!!! Been out riding my therapist, Pegasus, today!!! Hot day, but a goodun!!! Both Special K-oop and Catahoula Jack are conked out on the couch! Well, just Jack!! Coop is up and at my side, wanting a pat on the head and a little assurance that he is still loved...silly rabbit!!!! we, of course, love him beyond all measure, warts and all!!! say, why does the type on this site get so bold??? What the heck am I doing??? Oh, I see now...

Now its normal, or something to that affect!!! Looks like ol "short bus" Coop needs to go outside! "Short Bus" is what Haley calls him! He's as big as one, and yellow...She sure does love him, as do we!!! Well, be seeing you tonight hopefully!!! You'll recognasize (I know it's spelled wrong, did it on purpose) me, I'll be the one with the grin!!!

Catahoula sweet tater Beau DOD

05/11/10 05:00 PM

#2594

Hey Paige, I have an extra windo fan, and a window air conditioner!! Got em a couple a years ago right before Ike!!! You are welcome to them!!! You gonna make it to Elmer fudds??? I can bring them, or if not, I can bring them to you in CS on the way to the High country!!! Let me knwo!!!

05/11/10 09:43 PM

#2595

Hey waltripmoanians, just back from elmer fudds, what a great time! what a great group of folks, every one!!!! Kirk Thompson and his wife were down here all the way from OMAHA, NEBRASKA!!! Just for the night, they were driving back tonight, probably be home by 1 or 2!!!! See, folks come from all over just to be with the group of elmer fuddians!!! We can thank Theo for the 2nd tuesday meeting suggestion, and of Course, Jackie CF for EVERYTHING!!! If not for her and Theo, we all be still setting home watching I love lucy, bein grumpy, and probably stinky, and dopey, at least half of the 7 vertically challenged of snow white fame!!!!

Ok, all those concerned about my safety on Pegasus, fear not, I made it home just fine! I do appreciate the concern and care! Feels good to be cared about, doesnt it!!! Like I said, a great great group O folks!!!!

Hey Paige, that unit is 110 volt, so it will work in any regular plug!!!

Got catahoula jack and coop in my face, lovin on me! Kinda hard to type, but I'll git er done!!! Ok, now I have two cats trying to get in my lap, two dogs vying for my attention...aint love grand!!! I think I said goodbye to everyone...hmmm oh yeah, I missed Lynn and Charlie Burkhardt in the goodbyes! Well, maybe Charlie wont remember, he in terrible pain, and on pain killers!!! Looks like he gotta have a new discronificater installed and the old one removed!! Fran had abit of surgery on her leg, she was there tonight, take more than surgery to keep her and theo away, we all wish her a speedy recovery! It is so good to see everyone...Some folks were missing tonight...boo!!! Yall be there next time, ok????

Here at the zoo, got one big ol short bus on the couch, and two cats, and one dog in a big chair, and two cats on the arms of my chair! Oliver and Lacy!!! ol big olie is a might too big for the arm of any chair! That ol boy sure has gotten clingy and needy! Thats a good thing!!! Lacy is waitin for me to go to bed, so she can curl up and snore in my ear!!!! But I love em all!!! Obviously!!!

Gave the boys left over sirloin steak tonight and lima beans in their dry food! I was a pretty popular guy tonight!!!

2nd tuesday is the shortest 3 hours on record! Time really does fly when youre havin fun!!!! I was thinking maybe some day, we could meet at Angies Cafe/dinner on old 290 at 34th st, right next to Turners hardware! They have good down home comfort food!!!

My lovely bride just got home from her meeting, so think I will sign off!!!

Yall keep Fran and charlie and Keith and Lola and all in your prayers for a positive recovery from all the medical trials and tribulations they are enduring! Just keep a positive thought! Also for any and everyone else that needs good vibes...we are here for you...

Your friend and brother, sweet tater beau DOD

05/12/10 10:56 AM

#2596

Good morning to all you Waltripians. Beau is correct the time at Fudds does fly. I was late getting there due to getting my car out of the shop (new AC compressor a necessity with the temp. bummping 90 now. It was cooling but not when you were at idle) and make a stop at home to empty the puppy. what a joy she is. Still working on a name. My old dog that passed on was so well trained this new pup is a challenge. She's having to learn everything that Krug knew. that's part of the deal. Like most things in life if I pay attention I'll learn some things too. Anyway losing that hour cut into the visiting with my extended family that I look forward to. I guess Kirk Thompson '65 would get the award for coming the furthest if we gave one. Kirk drove down from Omaha. Kirk, if you'd move back to Texas you'd be warmer and wouldn't have to drive so far to Fudd Tuesday.

Burge how are things this morning at the Sharpei Ranch? Hope you're well. iIliked your comments about the morning. That is a really special time of the day. I guess it is a time of renewal. the sun is coming up and it is quiet just great. One of my favorite places for that is to sit outside at Caney Creek, near Sargent, TX, at day break. Have a cup of my whirld famous coffee and watch and listen to the whirld wake up. Usually at that time of day the crick is still as glass. It' not unusual to see a brown pelican skimming low down the creek fishing for breakfast. That's a really great sight. Especially since a few years ago you almost never saw pelicans in that area. It's great they're making a comeback.It's interesting to sit there at sundown also the pelicans come around but there is a great blue heron that fishes across the crick in the evening. He doesn't tolerate interlopers in his territory!

I was also interested in your comemnts about how war changed you. Here again my knowledge is second hand from my dad but I think all wars do that to the combatants. My dad used to say that if they could keep the green peas alive for six weeks they had a pretty good chance of surviving. He felt that the six weeks was critical because that's how long it takes to strip away the veneer of civilization. But I think it also marks everyone in the country. I think Viet Nam did that to our generation. It was such a devisive time that most people were affected. The two times I visited the Viet Nam Memorial in Washington it was very a emotional experience. I had no idea it would be before I went there. I'm sorry you and others had to go through that but thank you for doing it. It's unfortunate that we're still resolving things that way after all these centuries. When you're up to it you need to come on down for a Fudd Tuesday!

Eveyone keep on keeping on,

Rich

05/12/10 02:20 PM

#2597

Good afternoon Waltripians. I read something in the Motley Fool Column in the Chronicle today. Since I read this at lunch I'm glad I didn't lose my lunch. This shows why there are a lot of people on Wall St. that don't get it. The Abercrombie & Fitch corporation's board of directors has agreed to pay Mike Jeffries, their CEO, a lump sum payment of $4,000,000 if he will use the corporate jet less for personal use. In the future if his expenses for use of the jet personally exceed $200,000, he will have to bear the expense.Don't you feel sorry for poor Mike? This guy is one of the highest paid CEOs in the country but his corporatiton just barely broke even last year. While A&F's two leading competitors had very good years in a recession. Any comments from the gallery? If you have any A&F stock I'd dump it. What are your thoughts Duke Beaufunny?

Sir Theodore what say you or any of the other Knights of the Dinner Table? Or any other fine gentlemen and ladies? Even though I am mightily vexed by this,

I remain you King,

Richard

05/12/10 03:54 PM

#2598

i guess mr. beaufunny is out to lunch so i will give a comment on that poor fella that has to forego using the corperate jet for a measly 4 mil.what can it be but hubris;the attitude that your role in the corp.structure is so rarified that you are insulated from all extranious pressures even if it means shutting out reality.on borrowing one of riche's discriptions from the earlier post.'the veneer of civilization';this is the reality that is being ignored.i once refered to it as ' a sublimated form of naivete:arrogance!' they(the ones so insulated dont seem to understand that if the boat sinks(witness greece as they struggle to adjust)then all go down with it.they make or break each other like it was a private game.a billionaire dosnt have much to worry about except finding another billion;never mind the volitility of such archemedian leverage.as we have seen with the stock market (read electronic vulnerability)plunge of a few days ago.on a certain level,corporate jets are necessary;what is not necessary is the over-reaching of a ceo.

humpty dumpty

05/12/10 04:06 PM

#2599

HD or Sharpei Wrangler, I agree. I don't think they get it that we all do better if we all do better. Most of the time the high and mighty are brought down by there own arrogance. Got to go to a client appt. Have a great evening.

Rich

05/12/10 05:31 PM

#2600

Goot eefenink mine elmer fuddians,

ELITISTS King LH, the folks are ELITISTS...The gang of socialists/commies in power now think they should be the only royalty, and not any ol CEO or millionaire/billionaire, UNLESS, They are buddies of theirs!!! But like you said, when the ship sinks, us commoners are not the onliest ones to go down, everyone including the captain will hit the coldy brine!!! The ELITISTS think that THEY, AND ONLY THEY, are competent and worthy to be in charge! The problem with their thinking besides the obvious, is that what affects us out here in flyover country, will eventually affect them as well! We will go down first, thats for sure, but if there is no one to clean out their crapper, who they gonna call???? Each other??? They will start with the lowest on the totem pole in their realm, and eventually work it's way up to the top AH!!! And when the rank and file of the ELITITST AHs decide they dont want to clean up their own crap, they will rebel within their own mess, and implode! And really all they have done, is destroy what was once a great country, and eventually the whirld! The spoiled brats still wouldnt get it, because their attitude is, "if I cant have it, no one can"!

You ever notice that with rare exception, none of the elitists, have ever held a real job!!!!!! Not obummer, or anyone he has jammed down our collective throats! Little big man, rahm emmanuel or however you spell the sobs name, has little man syndrome, I call a "Napoleon" complex! Everyone seems so afraid of him!!! Why!!! He bleeds just like the rest of us!!! He was in some sweetheart deal going on in a realestate company, before king O took over, and with none other than the now ceo of GM, Whitacre, who use to be the ceo of Southwestern Bell! Whitacre sold off some SWBT holdings in real estate, and made sure it went through Little big mans office, so little big man could rake off millions in profits for his very own!!! So now it's payback time to Whitacre, and voila, CEO of GM. Now, that is just one of millions of examples of graft and corruption in the gov! All of this is so complex on the surface, but deep down it is just dishonest!!! There would be plenty of money to go around if everyone delt honestly, but some folks just dont want to work, or share!!!!!

Then when folks out here in flyover country, are hurting, the ELITISTS cop a "let them eat cake" attitude!!! Didnt work for a Queen we all know now did it!!! Hopefully the same thing will happen here and in other parts of the whirld!!!!

Howsomever, the ELITISTS are filling every gov job they can, and creating departments and hiring more and more folks from flyover country!!! Why???? Well, how many of you would rebel against the company that is handing you a paycheck???? Not many I'm afraid!!! The idea is to get at least a third or more of the people on the gov dole, whether it be by job, or welfare!!!

After all, that was what welfare was created for in the first place, not to actually help anyone, except the ones that get away with cheating on the welfare system, ie the woman that has 9 kids and making over 100K a year, and all she has to do, is lay on her back, and the gov keeps handing it over!!!!! It was created, to keep a dependent class of folks, ie a voting base! After all, who wouldnt vote for someone giving them money????? Like I said, there are layers and layers of graft and corruption, kinda like the onion analogy, the more you peel off, the more you cry!!!!

But a lot of the folks out here, could care less, as long as they have a tv, a remote, some beer and pretzels and Iphone and xbox, they are happy as pigs in slop! Those folks dont care a whit about this country or anything or anyone! They dont realize, that when things start to fail, and they lose that free money coming in, they are gonna be in a pickle! Case in point Greese!!!! Did you know, that 1 in 3 work for the government, and a goodly portion of the rest is on welfare???? A system like that is totally unsustainable! But the reason the ELITISTS sob commie/socialists keep trying it, is A. they dont want to work; and B. they think it hasnt worked, because they havent been allowed to try it! Friends, it aint WHO does it, it's WHAT THEY DO, that is the problem!!!!

But, here is a really really potentially more badder problem than the morons in government! (YES, I SAID MORONS IN GOVERNMENT, AND I MEAN ALL, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, ESPECIALLY THE TOP MORON)

Here is the really really more badder problem, THE COLLAPSE OF THE HONEY BEE POPULATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats right, the lowly honey bee!!! Hives have been collapsing for the last 4 years at a rate of 30% or greater! The last count, was 34% from fall to now of 2009 to 2010, and thats nation wide, and that is the 2nd highest percentage so far!!!! They dont have a clue as to why they are collapsing either, so there is no readily available fix on the horizon ! My neighbor across the county road up in the high country lost 60% of his bees year before last, or the year before he died!!! I havent talked to his son yet, to see how many he lost this past fall winter and spring!!!!!! My fellow waltripians, if the bees all die off, we wont be far behind! Sound like the end of the whirld in 2012 coming true??????? I certainly hope not, but it aint looking real great for the home team!!!!! Now, why all this gloom and doom??? Just the facts ma'am, just the facts!!! "It was claude cooper from cleveland who copped the copper clappers from cleaning lady clara's closet"!!!

Dont want to scare anyone, but the Honey Bee problem is the tip of the ice berg, and the Gov could care less about any stinkin ol honey bee problem! "Let them honey bee people, go to the honey bee store and just buy some more""" They say!!!! A good source to buy Honey bees, is actually in Paris, Texas!!!! I dont know what stupid senator said this, but it was years ago and he was axed about the growers here in america and what was he thinking of doing to help them, so people could have food and eat, a rather esential habit we've gotten into! His reply was, "let em go to the A&P to get food"!!!! Now I'm paraphrasing, but that is close to what he said!!! Rich and burge, you may remember the aforementioned also!!!! See, the elitist morons dont have a clue, because they are wrapped up in "what's in it for me"!!!! SAD SAD SAD!!!!!

Ane to think of all the men women and children that have given the ultimate sacrifice for this country, for it to come to this!!! As sailors soldiers airmen and marines, we all took the oath "to defend and protect the constitution of the United States"! To this scum that is in power now, the constitution means nothing to them, and an oath means even less!!!!!

To my simple black and white mind, something either is or it isnt; does or it doesnt; will or it wont; can or it cant!!!!!!!!! No inbetween!!! Either sex means sex, and is means is, or we are living in OZ!!! You cant just make up a new meaning for any word or phrase, or constitution, because you want to! IT AINT RIGHT, AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED!!!! But once again, who ya gonna call????

I would have gladly died in defense of this once great nation, and its constitution, so that my children and their children and so on, could have the things I have had, and done the things that I have done, well, not all of them, cause some of em I'm not real proud of, but you catch my drift!!! And a lot of folks have died just for that very reason, or at least the reason as they understood it! But along comes a spider, and convalutes everything! Sex aint sex, is aint is, and the constitution is just a worthless piece of paper!!!

Well guess I have thorougly pissed off everyone! No mattter, I will kommit hari kari by the next full moon!!!

I remain as ever, your friend and brother

sweet tater Beau dod

05/12/10 08:14 PM

#2601

we havnt seen the sedate beau in a while,you are correct about the 'elitist' infatuation with socialism;thats what they were taught in our universities;never mind that the favorite model in sweden now has "a capitalist welfare state"according to the latest report via breightbart.the many factions involved in this soupy conglomarate i.e.;democratic socialist party,code pink,move-on.org etc etc etc havent started their internicine fighting yet.it will come,probably when all 2000+pages of the healthcare bill are finally read(according to some auditors it is still being written)and some group or another fails to get what they were promised.

beau,you left out the reason honey bees are so important;they pollinate almost every serial grain that is grown in this country.in australia they have a bird that does the same but not here.at one time crop failures only meant famine in china or india;in africa most were caused by protracted war by the anc.no cross fertilization-no crops.thats black and white for you.where are the inviromentalists?there is another large group of elitists who cant seem to provide imperical evidence for their major claims.they are a sensitive lot and will scream when they get forgotten by the masters of this sham.meanwhile our water resources and forest bounty get pinned down by the fine print.

i cant wait to read the articulated fine print in the already passed but not quite finished healthcare bill.i already have to wait six months for an appointment at the va(our wonderful government run monster).thats the way it is now and has been for since 1990.socialized medicine is just another way to insinuate gov.control into our private lives.you think the brits were mad,the swedes a touch tired of it;canadians have been coming across our border in the north to take advantage of our now defunct "health care system" ever since they 'socialised' their system.i personally can wait a year for an appointment;its going on a year since i have had a dental appointment and im going blind in my right eye;have to wait to see 'my primary care physician";dosnt that term just make you feel all better.its not "your family doctor" any more.i can wait a year,i can wait two years;had to wait 5 years for my knees;no big thing,but thats me.my share of the $ 800,000,000,000.+ to our natnl debt will be paid for by "mordita" the little bite.

humpty dumpty

05/12/10 08:15 PM

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